24 in 24: Things We Learned in 2024 (Podcast)

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MOLLY KAPLAN, CO-HOST:

Welcome back to devouring the plate eating lunch with Molly and Kate and just like that 2024 is 2025 join Molly and Kate as we devour the play giving you listeners the 24 things we learned in 2024.

KATE PADLAN, CO-HOST:

Growth is all about a mindset and that's kind of a central idea of what we've learned in 2024. But before we get into anything else, let's start off by introducing ourselves. I'm Kate and I'm a senior at ND. Some of my hobbies are that I love to read, listening to a variety of music, mostly like hip hop, R&B, or even indie pop, and playing sports or working out. Anything that I like keeps me active.  And a fun fact about me is that I like to collect sneakers and I like the history of each sneaker. So I'm a pretty big sneakerhead, which is, I don't know if that's because I live in the Bay area, but I think that's just a big part of who I am. And so whoever's listening, if you need any advice on what next pair of shoes you should get, just hit me up.


KAPLAN: I'm Molly and I'm a junior at ND. I play volleyball and beach volleyball. I like Kate, like to read and listen to music. However, I would say I like more pop and country music. 
We are both looking forward to sharing some of our wisdom with you all.

KAPLAN: All right, moving on to the advice, the first thing that I learned in 2024 was only do things that you want to do. And I think that's just like so universal and it applies and it's like literally to everything because I feel like a lot of times people like I do this, we make decisions, like based on what we think, we should do, or like what path we wanna follow, but what's gonna, like make you the most happy in the moment is just following your instincts and like doing just having spontaneity. 

PADLAN: Actually, yeah, mine's pretty much the same for one of the first things I've learned in 2024, which is like, be happy with what you're doing, but also like, if you're not happy in a situation, it's okay to walk away. and if it yeah, because if it doesn't bring you joy, like, why are you still there? So, like, yeah, I think in 2024, I was put in a situation where I was not happy and I was just like, always battling myself with like, I don't know how to put this. 

KAPLAN: I know what you mean


PADLAN: You know, like you're just like if you're doing an activity 

KAPLAN: And your doing it  because you think you're supposed to do it, not because you really wanna do that.

PADLAN and you just don't yeah, you don't wanna do it anymore. And then, like in your head, you're like, well, why are you being a quitter? 


KAPLAN: But it's okay to quit. That's okay.

That's what I learned, that was hard for me to understand, but I was like I finally had to come to terms like, it's okay to quit or not even to quit, but just to leave. when it's not giving you what you need? 

KAPLAN: No, I agree with that, absolutely… 
Okay, my second one is at the end of each day, think about how you can grow and celebrate your accomplishments. And like that's something I did throughout 2024. I didn't do it every day, but it's something that I've been trying to do during 2025. and just like it's it allows for like a moment of reflection, just to be like, well, like how was today? 
Because I feel like it's, you know, so if you don't think about how every day went, like, you'll just fly through the days, and it's really important to reflect on what you did, how you acted, what brought you joy, like what didn't bring you joy. And celebrate the things that you've grown on throughout the year. And that's something that I will be doing this year because I really liked it last year.

PADLAN: Preach. No, I. That's actually such a very wise thing to say, Molly. It's like I feel like when you go through life and like it gets boring and you're not appreciating anything, it's like, you're losing a part of yourself. 
Like, you're losing the sense of adventure, right thrill, so you, you experience a. That's so good. Okay, the second thing on my list would be to travel, like I think something I learned 2024 is to like to travel and get out there, like trying new things. 
Like not just traveling like to different places but just traveling to like small places in your area. I feel like the little day trips are going to be like little stores. It's just like cute, and it's like little adventures you can fill your life with. instead of just going like, like, you don't have to like to go too far to find something, like to find like a new adventure. I feel like, yeah, I agree with you. 
And then, what's up called? but I also did not apply something to what I learned in APLit, but I learned this thing from this book that we're reading. It's called "When the World and Me" by Ta-Nehisi Coates. You'll read it when you're a senior, for those who are listening, if you know you know, but we have a teacher at ND, whose name is Miss Orr, and she teaches AP literature. 
And yeah, we have what we're currently reading, “When the World and Me”and I learned from one of the pages that when you travel, you're really putting yourself out there and you're like getting lost in the moment, but there's a thrill in that. and like, what's it called? You like to gain more knowledge and more culture. Like, you're not stuck in your own box anymore. 
You're out in the world seeing how different it is from your daily life. And I feel like that's important to experience. 

KAPLAN: I love traveling, so I agree. Okay. My third one is to be thankful for your friends and to lean on them.
And I put that because friends are like, like a really authentic connection. You're both you both want to be friends. Like it's not you're not born into being friends. 
You develop that friendship. and it's just, I don't know, it's just so important to me to have friends and to laugh with them. That kind of goes into my next sentence, so I won't talk about it. But yeah, friends are great, be thankful for them, make sure they know that you appreciate them and make sure that, you know, it's a great friendship.

PADLAN:
Yeah. I have a question about Molly. 

KAPLAN: Yes, Kate. 


PADLAN: Um, what's it called? When you are in a friendship, like, obviously like you're in a group with a bunch of friends, but then what if let's say there's this one individual person and like you feel like you guys are drifting and stuff, how would you, like, how would you encounter that? Cause like, I feel like if you aren't, like, you two don't like feeling each other as much anymore, I guess because of time, let's say.. 
But it's just like, how do you, like, fix that? And, like, do you just leave it as it is in that time to heal, or do you want to like it, should you try to put in more effort?

KAPLAN: I feel like, that's and I think it's situational, like, it depends on the friendship for me. 
I would probably try to fix it, like, as long as there's no fight or anything like that, I would try to fix it as soon as possible. If you still wanna be friends with that person and I feel like time and that case maybe it wouldn't heal. so much. But yeah, I think it's situational.. yeah, cause I'm not a very confrontational person either. Yeah, that's awkward for me.

PADLAN: That's yeah. So like, I can't be like, okay. We have a problem. 
I like, I'm not that time for I can't do it, so, I just I'm very silent with what happened. But it's and it doesn't have to feel confrontational. It can be like we're friends, like, let's fix it, like, make it fun. We're friends, we need to do something about it okay.  Off to my third and oh, advice, off to my third, like what I've learned is life is too short. 
And I know that's like said so many times, but I feel like in 2024, a lot of losses have occurred in my life. And so when I like someone not to be too deep, but like whenever someone passes away and someone like, whether you're close with them or not, it's like it makes you realize life is way too short. like um, you did not see them enough sometimes, or like you just think back on it and just like, wow, you know? I do know, it was just sad. 
It's sad. I'm sorry, you can apply that under your own life, which is why, which is what makes it happy, because then you can do what you want, just live your life, how you want. It is because you have one life and do not always like putting inspirational quotes. 
Like, you have one life, life is too short. But, like, it's so true, like, those little it's like those little sayings are so true and like they hold more meaning that we know. So I think life is too short and I think like you said, we have to appreciate every day, and I agree. 
So, yeah. like, correlating to what you said earlier, life is too short. Yes.

KAPLAN: Yeah. 
All right. Okay. mine, I already functioned it just a little bit, but it is don't take high school too seriously and AKA have fun. That's something that is so true for me. Like, I'm in my junior year and apparently it's supposed to be horrible and I'm supposed to hate it. 
But I don't. like I'm having so much fun. like the schoolwork is actually like it that's a lot, but it's it's a lot about it's a lot about compromises. Like I do my homework. like I'm not saying I don't do my homework. It's a little bad. but it's just like, what do I need? like priorities and figuring out what's important to me? 
and just having fun. like yesterday, I was cracking myself up all day. I was laughing out all my jokes, because I wasn't taking it seriously. And you know, you have to take something seriously, but if you don't need to, then just have fun with it and take it slow because you're not supposed to fly through everything. 
It's supposed to be fun. 

PADLAN: Yeah. Oh my gosh, I wish I was you and my junior year. 
It's okay. Wow. It's okay.

KAPLAN: It's hard to have this mindset because again, there's a lot of work, there's a lot of stuff like SATs. I haven't even started studying for it. 

PADLAN: Every time I think about that, I feel for you guys because I like they're making it required now. I don't even know or like they might be. It's hard for a lot of schools, but it's not required to take it. 

KAPLAN:
I think CSU is and UCs don't require it., but like some schools are starting to bring it back 

PADLAN: Yeah, a lot of schools are, I whenever I like when I heard about that, I felt for you because like I'm not a test taker, I'm not a test taker person. Like, I'm bad at those types of tests. So, like, you guys having to study for the SATs right now is like, I don't know, I commend you guys so much.

KAPLAN: Thank you. 

PADLAN:That was not me, you. No, that's okay. But, um, I like that one. 
Thank you. I love how you are loving your junior year right now. 

KAPLAN:
Thank you. 

PADLAN: Okay. um, what's the next one? Oh, I said I think I saw this from an uh Instagram post. 
I think this is a post that did it, so it was like, this is very wise. I said, um I said “each fight of life prepares you for another fight”. And this came from like a passage from the post, and so I had to read it like, three times because I'm like wait, what is this what? 
What's it mean? What does it mean? But now, like the third time I read it, I understood and I was like, oh, so basically, when you go through one challenge in life, that's not like, that's not it. 
Like there's going to be like trials and tribulations as you go on. And like, you still learn, though, like one from one challenge, you learn a lesson from that, and hopefully you take it with you and like to apply it. And so like, I want to try doing more of that, but I did learn. 
I just started learning about that in 2024. No, like, yeah, like you you're not gonna stop fighting, and eventually, obviously you're gonna get burned down and tired. Oh my God, burnouts.

KAPLAN: And we're back alright, onto number five. My number five goal is to become friends with your teachers, which I guess really only applies to high school and maybe college too, but yeah, it applies. Um, and I said that because they just have such a unique perspective that we don't have in high school. They have a lot of wisdom, they're funny, um yeah, I don't know, I like all my teachers this year. 
So it's I have no problem, not being friends where you hang out, obviously that's not what I mean. I mean, just like being friendly,  and just being a good student in class too, that's important. 

PADLAN: Yeah. 
I like that. No, that's good. And I feel like from what I've seen more like you're very you're very kind. and you're very when you interact with your teachers, you're very patient, and like, you're understanding, like you're open to knowing them, and I, there are just people just like us.
That's so true. I like that one.. I said, never stop growing, like never stop expanding your resume, palette taste, whatever it is, like all parts of you, like you should keep expanding your horizons in a way. 
Like, you should like, not resume just as in college, but just like growing for like growing more of your experiences, and trying new things, like food, or just trying, like, new new sets of fashion, different music. to see like, you never know, because if you don't try, you'll never know if you like it. So I think that's what I was like, trying to learn. And I'm very picky. 
Oh, I'm very picky. and like, I know if this is not supposed to be just about food, but I'm very picky about food and so my mom's always like, um, if you'd ever try I'll never know. So I was like, that applies to life as well guys. It does, because that helps you grow and then you become a more well rounded person., and you like something now, like you. 


KAPLAN:Yes, exactly. You'll, you'll never know. I know. 
Wow. Okay, my next one is make sure that you introduce yourself to everyone you meet. I feel like this is something that I've tried to always do. Yeah. just, you know, introduce yourself, say your name, it's important to get your name out there and it's important to know other people's names and just to have that greeting is really important, especially if it's a professional setting, you wanna be sure to properly introduce yourself. 

PADLAN:
Yeah, that one's not super deep, but I think it's good. That's yeah, because like, I feel like what's called. Yeah, like knowing someone's like, obviously you walk away from a situation, you're like, wait, I don't have a name, I don't know, that sucks. 
That's a good life skill, though. especially when you're meeting a professional teacher. Yes. like, not professional teachers, professional people, yeah. Yeah. 
Maybe they're teachers. it opens opportunities for you, I feel like it does. Okay. um, I said for my sixth, I said, don't stop making connections even if it's your senior year. And this for me next year, I guess, I do, I highly recommend it. 
Don't, stop giving up on making friends…

KAPLAN: Welcome back to devouring the plate with Molly and Kate. It's about a week later and we are continuing with our 24 things we learned in 2024. Take us away, Kate. 

PADLAN: Yes, so we're back from being interrupted. but we left off, or I left off on my sixth um lesson that I've learned in 2024, which was don't stop making connections, even if it's your senior year. And we left off on saying how it's very important to not stop talking to people and I think I've learned, like something I've learned in retreat. I just, yeah, I just got back from retreat and something I've learned was that even if you spend like four years with, um, the same class, there's always so much to learn about someone. And like, you can continue making stronger connections, even, like, like even if you don't know them so much, or like you just pass by them like in the hall, it's like always nice to like, have conversation, because, I mean, like, you've you've been in the same class for four years, so, like. Exactly. It's a sweet way.

KAPLAN: Yeah, how was retreat?

PADLAN: It was good. It was um how was it? What is it? It was eye opening. I can't drop too much because they made us, keep it a secret? Yeah, they made it, they made us sworn to  secrecy, but it was so fun. It was fun and very genuine. and I miss it.. yeah, I think you'd love it. Hopefully you go. 

KAPLAN: Yes. Okay, my number seven is think about your actions before and make sure you stand by your words and actions. I feel like yeah, I think that really just means be proud of what you say. and don't say things that you wouldn't be proud of. like, yeah, I don't I feel like that's pretty self explanatory. but just like, if you're you know, you have to think before you say, you have to stand behind what you're gonna say. don't spread false information. be truthful.

PADLAN: Yeah... I think you're right, yeah, it's very self expiratory, but I really liked how you word it. 

KAPLAN:Thank you very much.

I think I read that like two times to really get that in my head

KAPLAN:  OK, we're back again. and we keep getting interrupted, but let's go, Kate, you got it. 

PADLAN: Okay. So as I was saying for my seventh, I said, make it a habit to keep it to keep your spaces clean, like including your room, your bathroom. like, wherever you hang out in your house or like living space, because I feel like for me, it's like, if my space is clean, I can focus better. Like, I don't know if I like it even if I have so much stuff on my desk and like, I don't feel motivated to work at all. or anything like that. So, like, I think, yeah, that's, like something I've learned. and I'm still trying to plan. So I'm still learning, because my room is still the best. But I don't know, it's just like there's something about putting your laundry away that is just like, you don't wanna do it, and you just wanna wait. Yeah. But I'm learning and I need it to change, like when you, like, do it early, so, yeah. 

KAPLAN: Yeah, my perspective of my laundry used to be that if I don't put it away, then I can just wear all the clothes on it like, why should I put it away? Because I'm just gonna wear them anyway, but I feel like maybe that's not the best. Okay, my number eight islaugh and awkward situations. Which I do all the time, because, like, if you're not gonna laugh, like, that's just awkward. Like, make it funny, you make it or make it more awkward by laughing. like, sometimes being awkward is funny. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like for sure. sometimes I'll like it if it's only for friends or not. When it’s awkward or something, I'll literally just make it more awkward and make them feel awkward because I think it's so funny. I'm just like so funny to me, but I just like if there is an awkward situation and it's not someone of your friends with like, you can make you can be friends by laughing and being like, oh, it's fine. I like it, we're friends now. 

PADLAN: Exactly. I agree, and I think like, it's called for when we're when we were having deep conversations or something like on retreat, or like just in general, when I'm with my friends or family, I always like there's always that, like awkward period of silence, because you're done talking about a topic. So I always have to like crack a joke or be like, I or like something like that. to like transition, because it's like, we just have that silence. make it funny. Yeah, like I know what you like we have to dwell in what we just talked about time move on. It's gotta move on. 

Yeah, um so my eighth, I didn't really like starting to lose, like ideas, but I said let loose and make the most of your last year in high school. and Loki, it's kind of Sorry.., we are. seems awkward. Yeah, true., you just love it all, you just off. Sorry, there's we're in the hallway right now, you guys. 

Welcome back to our final hopefully location of this podcast episode. We are currently sitting under the stairs and well, we'll see. Whoa, look at what it says. I know, right, isn't cool Cool, okay. But hopefully this will be our final location because we've been getting either kicked out or the environment is just too loud, so we just started trying to make the best audio as best as possible. So yeah, we're under the stairs. if it's a little too echoey, we're so sorry. I'm just saying that, um as every time, like almost I realized, like twice or three times a week, um, I'm gonna graduate, and I'm gonna leave this place. And it makes me sad, so, like, letting loose and making the most of your last year's high school so for it, because like, yeah, like, I've been stressing about assignments and, like, I've been feeling behind, but I always have to try to remind myself at the end of the day that, like, I have to enjoy, like, these last moments, and that's what I've learned in the beginning. you. That's what I learned in the beginning of 2024. I was trying to make sure that was gonna be something I always remembered to make sure I made the most of it. Because everything is just gonna fly by myself fast and I'm not gonna like everyone obviously I'm gonna be friends with these certain people still, but it's just like, making the most and making memories with those people to be loved is just so important in the class. Very true for becoming an adult.. I'm so sorry

KAPLAN:  My number 8, Mine is to play sports. Like, especially if you're in high school or middle school or older than that too, or literally any point in life, you should always play sports. I feel like team sports. are the best way to make connections, learn how you like to interact with other people and how you like other people to interact with you. Yeah and learn how to be the same player, well, also prioritizing your own growth which is very important, especially, like, I feel like that translates to so many things, just playing sports. And it's probably my highest recommendation for anyone.

PADLAN: Yeah. I get into it. into too deep with Molly's like T, but like, I feel like you're right about it. put more in a while but playing, sports really tell a lot about your life, how you handle things, your mindset already.C I feel like sports, yes, it's competitive, but it's so competitive within yourself, too. because you're always like, you're always like competing and having, like building your mindset to, like, do better or be the best and stuff but like, whatever your goals are in sports, and it's just like, I feel like that teaches a lot about yourself.. So that's why I really like sports. like exactly. It brings out your, I wanna say, like, but it's fine. I don't your competitive. Okay, uh, oh, yeah. I said for my other one that I learned that it's okay to be a homebody. And I'm married. I was like I was sure that I'm either an introvert or extrovert, but it turns out I am an ambivert. What it's both, like you're both an introvert, and you're both an extrovert. It just really depends on, like, how you are throughout the day. like I feel like it's like a lot of my friends or like, I know sort of the people who like to be out, but for me, it's like sometimes I have to remind myself like, you have to it's like okay for you to stay home. and like, when people are out, you should be like, you should, like you're making your own decision to stay home and you relax. and that's just who you are, and it's okay to not, you know, be out all the time. So I think that's what I am, because I get fomo so I'm just like, oh, should I be out right now, or should I just like, should I go out? But like, I don't have to keep reminding myself it's okay to be. It is, you know, just yeah. It's just that way. It's just a place that you're in. Right? Yeah. Okay. 

KAPLAN: Okay. I agree, but my next one, I think Kate can agree with, and everyone else in the world can agree with. And it is to take a journalism class, specifically at Notre Dame, if you go here. I've met Kate through journalism and this is how we are podcasting. I have so many great people, a lot of role models because when I joined, like, there was no freshman. It was just sophomores. so, and everyone older than us. So I've like I don't know, I've learned a lot from people in journalism about journalism, but then also about life, about college stuff, about classes I should not take. um I've gotten a lot of insight and I also really much better writer and like a fact checker, I guess, and maybe an analyzer as well. I feel like that's translated to like my English class, too. Yeah, like I just wrote in a Gatsby editorial, and I was like, this is easy. like, this is what I love, this is what I do. I hope the same way where I wrote it it was just. I literally had the flu when I was writing in. I was like this is fun. Like I'm having fun., cause it's like journalism, it's literally journalism, but it's like like, yeah, but I yeah, nobody else knows what they were doing. I know what I was doing.

PADLAN:  Actually, since we're already on the topic, my 11th one was also to take journalism because I wanted to match Molly. I also I'll just skip ten for now and then come back to.. I just trying to add on yes, like, Molly's so right, like, when you become young, you learn how to become a fact,  a fact checker. and like, it's so important because it's in our day and age, like with AI, obviously, like fake news and stuff like that, it's important to learn, like, what sources to rely on. and yes, it's still hard because, like, we're very like we're young and we still have to like, really pay attention to detail and stuff, but I feel like as you go, you really learn, like, what to trust and what to take from, like the news, because sometimes, you know, it's like it's obviously very biased. and, like a lot of like, you know, like not propaganda propaganda, a word., like like okay, yeah. like let's use propaganda. but like, you know, that's how, like, the news is and it's just like, for us to learn, like, just to take it, like one by one, right, it gets overwhelming, but take journalism. I am so grateful that I took journalism because I was supposed to take Intro to Photography, but these are one of the situations where it's like, things happen for a reason, for sure, like, I didn't know what I wanted to be when I grew up and thank God I found journalism, because if I did it, I I don't even know what I would really want to be. I like it. Now I wanna study it in College. I want to major in journalism and I'm so happy that I finally found something I'm passionate about and something I look forward to doing in the future. So thank God. That's why I say take journalism, because you never know. You might you know, you might like work in that you. And I think it's so interesting. anyways, yes. 

KAPLAN: Yep, that is quite true. I  agree with that. Okay. My next goal is to find  your community, and I feel like that's so universal, a little broad and not specific, but I feel like it applies wherever you go. like just figure out how you wanna represent yourself and how you want to represent yourself with other people. I feel like if I'm a community, at Notreame at literally literally I feel like because of my experiences on Not Dame and in the past, like, I feel like wherever I end up, wherever I go, I'll have them much easier time, like, just connecting with people on a real level, where it's like a genuine connection. and I'm proud of that because I think that's a really hard thing to do is to be yourself and, like, make friends by being yourself and feeling confident enough to be yourself. But just because of who I am, I feel like if I'm not myself when I make connections with the people, I'm never gonna have, like a genuine connection, just something that's really important to me... so, yeah, find your community and be part of your community. Yes. I love that. I have that. It's so good.

PADLAN: Oh, that's so good. And I would just gonna say, like, I feel like from the time I've known you like you're such a people person. Like, you can end so well with people, like, you read the room very well, you can, like, easily like, no matter if it's like, your person's your age or even an adult, like you're so good. I just like being like the person who's matching. I. Like, that's why I say that peoplecue. I like that's a great skill that you have. Thank you. Anyway, um, my next one would be to be kind, but, okay, I don't know how to word this in such like It sounds rude, but I said be kind, but don't let anyone like, take advantage of that. Oh yeah, yeah, like I don't know, like, I feel like there's a fault that I saw pictures that I really like, it's like be kind but don't let anyone take. But don't let your guard down. be kind, but don't take anything from anyone else. I don't I obviously can't say the word, but I think that's so important to do because obviously it's very important to be nice and to be kind to everyone you would meet. but, you know, like the world can be tough and sometimes. So you need to obviously have that tough skin of yours as well, because I've learned, like, you know, people can take advantage of kindness, you know, and like to I know, and that hurts. and like, I think I've been hurt too much too much from that, so I've learned to like, really make sure that I can't let anyone take advantage of it, but I also learned at the same time to not, um, not let it get in the way of trusting people. Yeah, because, like, it comes in, it's like a balance. Like, you need to obviously, like, you need to open up, and you need to make sure you're also protected as well. 

KAPLAN: My number 12 is to expand your horizon. And again, it's like a super broad general universal statement. but it's like, growing is literally like the whole point of life. Like, you literally start as a baby, and grow up. like, that's what you're supposed to do, so in every stage of life, I feel like it's just really important to try new things and not let your age define what you think you're capable of. Like, there's so many people that all see like later in life and they're like, like earlier was like, you should play sports, like, they don't play sports, like they just feel like they're too old for that, and you are never too old. Like, literally do what you want. and you't grow through it, like push yourself. be a better version of yourself, the next, every day grow every day. 

PADLAN:Oh, yes, Molly, yes. I love that.. You watch basketball, right? Yeah. Yeah, like you know how everyone's like LeBron so old, like they're retiring so like they can't keep doing this forever. Like, you're so right. Like, it doesn't matter. like, like, they need to be as good, like, she's still got it, like, stop talking. But yeah, don't I like that. Don't let your age stop you from growing and like doing what you wanna keep doing. Anyway, don't. I don't do so much. Okay, my last one. so the backstory, my last one, we have a list and we all like it's like from one to 12 and we have written everything written. and for my 12th, it's literally just three dots. Yeah, she doesn't know. But after, like talking, I finally got something from going to senior retreat and also just talking with Molly that it reminded me of something that I've learned. I guess I've started to learn it in 2024 and I officially like got it in my head in 2025, which was like, be authentic to yourself, which I feel like we've said that throughout this whole podcast, but in many different ways, but just like, know yourself, be authentic to yourself, and at the same time, don't forget where it came from. Like, don't forget where you come from, like your roots. And like, I feel like I've learned that and retreat and also just like, from how we were talking because it's like, when you, um, also get into college again, but like, when you leave, obviously not just college, but you leave to to a new place for like a new job, for like college or like you're moving houses or like anything in that type of situation where you have to leave your old past behind. You always have to remember to bring the good parts of you into the new place that you're entering and also just like, you know, like don't forget who you are in times where you are doubting yourself or when things get hard, because it's like, when you know that you're strong and that you can be determined in these subs situations, it helps you pick yourself up when you don't have anyone around you. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like it helps you as well remembering who you are and where you came from and bringing it to the place to a new environment. And it's just like, yeah, it helps people see the type of person more as well. I really. Yes. Yes, that is what I like. That's why I loved retreating. like you you had to get in your own fields and like, learn from someone. but I'm trying to not talk too much. That's too good. like Richmond was so good. Richmond was so fun. glad.. Yes. awesome. 

KAPLAN: Okay. Well, I think that concludes our very first podcast first 

PADLAN: …and last. I'm just kidding. We don't know. if there is a second episode of us again, like, that's crazy, you guys.

KAPLAN: But thank you for joining us on devouring the plate, eating lunch with all. We really only eat our lunch during our first weekend, but we will be eating lunch after this. I think that. yes. We were definitely we were it was a metaphor. We were eating with our words with our words..

PADLAN: Yes. Oh my gosh. All right. Let's see.

Both: Thank you